Want Relief From Pain? Just Add Light! with John Graham

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wake up every morning, the decisions we make is usually it's based on something as simple as passion.

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If you have all the coaches that I've had in my life, it's their inspiration as well as their instruction, but it's their inspiration that really moves.

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It really, really got me going.

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Welcome to Pivoting Pharmacy with Nutrigenomics.

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Part of the Pharmacy Podcast Network, a must-have resource for pharmacist entrepreneurs seeking to enhance patient care while enjoying career and life.

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Join us as we pivot into nutrigenomics, using pharmacy and nutrition for true patient-focused care.

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Explore how to improve chronic conditions rather than just manage them.

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Celebrate entrepreneurial triumphs and receive priceless advice.

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Align your values with a career that profoundly impacts patients.

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Together, we'll raise the script on health and pivot into a brighter future.

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Hello and welcome to Pivoting Pharmacy with Nutrigenomics.

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I'm Dr Tamar, Lawful Doctor of Pharmacy and Certified Nutritional Genomics Specialist.

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This is an episode that's close to my heart and, I believe, will touch yours too.

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Today, we're not just talking about a topic.

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We're embarking on a journey, a discovery of light in its most healing form.

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That's right.

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We're shining a spotlight on the magnificent and somewhat mystical world of red light therapy.

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Now I know what you might be thinking, Tamar girl.

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You've got me curious and I'm here to tell you.

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Your curiosity is about to turn into enlightenment, because today, in our cozy corner of the world, we welcome a phenomenal soul, the one and only John Graham.

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This man is not just a master trainer.

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He's a trailblazer in the realm of fitness and healing technologies and a true pioneer in embracing non-pharmaceutical methods for stellar health and recovery.

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Imagine a world where recovery, healing and wellness don't always come out of a bottle or a prescription pad, A world where light not just any light, but red light becomes your ally in chasing away the shadows of pain, fatigue and injury.

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That's the world John not only dreamed of, but made a reality after battling his own shadows.

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Following an injury, John didn't just seek light, he became a bearer of it, creating Lumaflex and transforming lives, one wavelength at a time.

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Now, why am I so fired up about this?

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Because, my friend, in this luminous hour, we're not just listeners, we are seekers.

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We're not just embracing a new dawn of non-pharmaceutical health management that complements our genetic blueprint, we are stepping into the light ourselves.

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With John's insights, we're about to uncover how red light therapy, something so powerful yet profoundly simple, can revolutionize the way we look at our health, recovery and overall wellbeing.

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So grab your favorite cozy blanket, a cup of something delicious and settle in.

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Whether you are a fitness enthusiast, someone on a healing journey or just curious about unlocking new ways to empower your health, this conversation is definitely for you.

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Together, with John Graham guiding us, let's illuminate our understanding and maybe, just maybe, find a new way to glow.

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Well, John, thank you for joining us on Pivoting Pharmacy with Nutrigenomics.

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You know your journey is an inspiring testament to turning challenges into triumphs.

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After navigating the rocky roads of injury, you didn't just find a light at the end of the tunnel.

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You brought the light to everyone with Lumaflex.

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Could you share a slice of that moment, the spark that ignited your passion for this groundbreaking approach?

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Yeah, I was a competitive athlete and I had a lot of injuries Some of them were quite serious and red light therapy actually helped me to recover.

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It was introduced to me by my wife, bless her heart.

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She forced me to use it.

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I kind of was still on the fence.

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I thought it was this pseudoscience thing, but I wanted to obviously appease her.

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I didn't want her to feel bad, so I tried it out at work and then from there the journey began into digging deeper into what red light therapy was and, of course, once you're on the red light therapy train, there's so much to learn.

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I'm still learning every day, but my background coming from an athlete that was recovered and then I had a very strong network.

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I have a lot of experience with fitness businesses, so I kind of just brought my experience into the business and shared the birth of Lumaflex.

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So this is the world's number one red light therapy panel.

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Red light therapy is very prominent in the world right now.

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So it's a lot of people are using larger devices and those devices usually are fixed to your home.

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But for me and my experience as an athlete, I needed something very portable.

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I needed something very durable.

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So I tailored a device, I created something that was a little bit more suited to me, someone like me.

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This is now the number one portable, fully flexible, flexibility being important because, with a silicone panel, I can mold it to different joints and muscles and you can wrap it on your neck, you can put it on your head and put it on your stomach, your knee, your ankle.

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So it's fully portable, durable, and this one in particular, the BodyPro is fully waterproof.

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So I've tested it in all kinds of environments hyperbaric chambers, saunas, cryo chambers and I want to make something very, very durable that eventually, maybe, it'll go into the military.

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It'll be something that people that when they go out, they can actually have it in their bag well break and they can use it on the go anytime, anywhere, right?

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I like that.

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It's portable and can be formed to any area that needs it.

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Let's back up a little bit.

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Tell us exactly what is this red light therapy and how was it able to help you recover.

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It's a photobiomodulation, the medical term for light therapy.

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It's very, very vast.

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There's lots of scientists and doctors that I have access to that I'm always learning from.

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But really, when I talk to someone who is an athlete, like I'm potentially going to be working with the NBA.

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So talking to the pro athletes, the way I explain it is red light therapy is from the sun.

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The optimal time to get a red and infrared light is at sunrise and sunset.

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Here in Miami we have very beautiful sunrises and that time, you know, you see the red, that deep, dark orange.

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That's red and infrared light.

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That's when the wavelengths of light, they're at the right length to be able to penetrate your skin and activate the mitochondria.

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We're humans, we're made up of of cells.

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Like the engine, the powerhouse of the cell is the mitochondria.

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So if you're giving energy to the mitochondria, the cell can do what it's supposed to do.

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It can do its job and from there we get three mechanisms we get increased blood circulation, anti-inflammation and increased ATP and with that we get improved hair growth.

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So you see these helmets that you put on your head, yeah, with the red light that help to grow your hair.

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You see the led masks that are big on tiktok now where the girls wear it for their face right, and that's because it produces, helps produce, collagen in your skin and that gives the whole anti-aging space.

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That's where the red light therapy is very prominent in anti-aging.

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Now it's becoming quite popular in the sports world.

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For pain management and for me in particular, where I see red light therapy, you get the most bang for your buck where the communication, the messaging of red light therapy, where it really can change the world, is when you discuss it as a pain management solution, because pharmaceuticals have a very strong influence on how people behave.

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Right, we're buying drugs in order to appease pain, to sort of nullify pain, which are still just very surface and to be part of a large community of people, to stir people, you know, turn people away from pharmaceuticals.

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I think that would be the best imprint that I could put on the world.

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So whenever I talk about red light therapy, it does all these other amazing things boost your testosterone, you know, raise your body's SPF levels.

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There's so many things it does also for your overall wellbeing, you know, to help with anxiety, depression, all of that.

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But the strongest sort of thing that I think that it can do to enter somebody's life and to get them interested to where they can step their toes into.

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It is with pain management is dealing with back pain, with neck pain, even with if you have serious headaches, if you have migraines.

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It can really help with alleviating that and you can have almost permanent relief, even Most.

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There's a lot of stories out there there people with zero pain anymore from chronic pain they've had for years, and to me that's very exciting.

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That's not only why I wake up in the morning, but that's why the whole team here in the office, while we all wake up in the mornings because that's a good cause, right, it's something that is, um, you know, you can bite your teeth into it.

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You can really stand strong and say I'm doing something good, let's just keep working on it.

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Keep you know, along with all the other companies that are in red light therapy.

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You know we're growing the awareness, we're growing the industry as a whole and it'll change.

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The whole world will change right.

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Yes, indeed, that is quite impressive.

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The benefits of red light therapy seem like they stretch way beyond the physical attributes, the cosmetic purposes like collagen, improving collagen and having your face look smoother and younger to be able to effectively manage pain.

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That is quite impressive, but I'm curious to know your opinion, john, because it seems like red light therapy has been a bit of an undercover hero in the health world.

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Why do you think it's remained uncelebrated for so long, despite the transformative effects?

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That's such a great question because in the space of biohackers and optimizers I meet people like that are very prominent in functional medicine and they say, oh, I've been doing this for the last 40 years, you know, only now it's starting to catch on, you know.

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So it's been around for a long time.

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I think it was first in NASA when they were trying to use it to grow plants in space.

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The astronauts realized it was healing abrasions on their skin.

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So it started to trickle into the medical world for very surface relief, like if you have a cut, or it would just help accelerate the healing.

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It's something, obviously, that we all know, we all say, but we don't say it too loud, and that is that it is a big obstacle to the agenda of pharmaceuticals, to the agenda of big pharma as a whole.

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Where our big milestone will in the community of red light therapy, where we will hit the largest milestone, is if we are able to create red light therapy as the standard of care.

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If you go into any hospital clinic and you have a condition, a severe pain condition, the doctor should encourage you to use red light therapy before any other drug and that when it becomes a standard of care, that's when, you know, the tides will change.

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So we do behind closed doors.

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We always say, like you know, there it is a battle against big pharma.

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Maybe that's the reason why it's taken so long to get notoriety, but we have a lot of support from top neuroscientists, from these.

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Andrew Herberman he endorses red light therapy law and he's he's a famous person, he's a public figure, you know.

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Then there's guys like Gary Brekker.

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Joe Rogan has one of the largest audiences in media.

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He also endorses it.

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So when you have people that are well-known on social media, people respect what they say.

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They like their advice.

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They package themselves as someone who isn't trying to sell anything.

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They're just trying to help the world.

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Then they become trustable.

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We start to at least adopt some of the advice that they had and they are pushing red light therapy a lot, along with some of the other.

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You know very famous coaches, famous athletes.

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You have very prominent athletes in golf, nba, fighting.

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They use it a lot.

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So when they start to endorse it, it starts to become more and more mainstream.

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But we can only imagine that in the future it won't get easier, it's going to get harder, because there is a very serious threat to the agenda of big pharma, not to go all conspiracy.

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It is.

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If they could find a way to put in the pill, they would do it right.

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That's right, yes, I agree.

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Well, thank you for sharing that, because I had no idea that it's been around that long.

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I had no idea.

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So thank you for sharing that insight with us.

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You know, I'm curious to know just like we would ask or share with clients or patients the side effects of medications.

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Are there any side effects associated with red light therapy or potential side effects, even if misused, that people should be aware of?

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Red light therapy.

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I think the biggest concern would be if somebody has a skin condition, a skin allergy, or like they're not able to go out into the sun.

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That's always something to consider if you're using red light therapy.

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Also, if the application, the actual device, the way that the device was created, the hardware that was used, did it pass certain testing to be able to make sure that the device itself isn't the possibility of being harmful Like this?

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One has been tested for EMS, for everything.

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So it's cleared.

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It is FDA class two.

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But some devices that don't necessarily care about getting certain certifications, they just want to sell on Amazon and they want to come at a very cheap price.

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Maybe the materials that they use they're not.

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Maybe that you know, because an LED, this is a dual chip LED, so the the LED has red and near infrared, so two nanometers.

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It has six, 30 and eight, 50, both nanometers and one LED.

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Now LEDs when you want a powerful device like, say, for example, a panel or something that, because touching your skin you get a bit of treatment, this is, you're maximizing the amount of treatment right by touching your skin, but when you go further away, light reflects, it can dissipate.

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So stronger LEDs are used with larger devices so that you can stand away from it or you can be positioned not so close and that LED.

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There's a cooling mechanism in the device because LEDs will get hot, so the more powerful it is, the hotter it goes, so the materials created around it.

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When you have a heat element there's certain regulations you have to adhere to to create to make sure that the device isn't isn't dangerous.

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But other than that, there's no, really no known side effects to any any other conditions.

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You know on my manuals and in my printing, whenever I introduce Lumaflex or when you buy the product, I will Say don't use while pregnant, don't use if you have a heart condition, don't use.

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I will have a list.

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But that's just for liability.

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For the FDA clearance I have to have certain protocols you have to follow.

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There isn't really any known side effects for other conditions that I'm aware of.

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But it is light, it's just light.

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It's from the sun, it's just been programmed into the LED.

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And because it's light similar to the sun, it's not like ultraviolet light, which is known to cause cancer, right?

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So that's completely different.

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Yeah, it's a different spectrum On the other side.

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Now I want to go a little bit more into your LumaFlex Body Pro, Because we know that consistency is key to unlocking any benefits when it comes to health, and especially with red light therapy.

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So how does the Lumaflex Body Pro ensure that people who are using it can stay consistent and that way it fits in their daily routine?

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Now, as you mentioned earlier and you showed how easy it is to be placed anywhere, is there anything else, any other features of it that would make it easy to use day to day?

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That's such a great question because consistency with red light therapy is the key.

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You know, I always say every day as a human being we need clean water, we need healthy food, we need deep sleep and we need movement, we need exercise, we need to move our bodies.

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So these are neat things that we need on a daily basis to stay healthy.

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And I think light is another key thing that we need on a daily basis.

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There's a lot of encouragement now by doctors to go outside first thing in the morning to expose your eyes to natural sunlight.

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So the awareness of the value of light in our daily lives is becoming more and more known.

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But I always tell people like, if you do have pain, if you have chronic pain, you'd need to use it consistently, just like you need these other things to be consistent.

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But I'm trying hard to create some program, a process, an incentive structure, lots of support when you buy the product.

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So I had like for the Body Pro there's an app that you have and the app it will notify you to encourage you to use red light therapy to make sure you get your you know your 10, 20 minutes a day.

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That's sort of what I can do on my side.

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But then how I want to structure it more and is if people are selling the product like I'm, they're reselling like a, like a coach, the coach.

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I provide them with the education about how amazing red light therapy is.

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Because where I kind of got really excited was not just my own story, but when my father used it, when my mother, both of whom were dealing with chronic pain, when they found relief, I got very excited about it and learning about what it can do.

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I thought it was like you.

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I was very surprised no one else knew about this.

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I sort of felt like I had something special, a little secret you could say you know for my family and friends.

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So I was very excited about it.

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The education really empowered me to push the treatment, to push this kind of therapy to the world.

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It's natural, it's non-invasive, it got me really excited.

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That passion, if you communicate that right, it inspires that end user, that person experiencing pain, and encourages them to use it.

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So I always I'll do what I can do for the businesses that buy and resell, for the trainers that buy and resell, but the education, I feel, is the biggest trigger that gets the movement going, empowering people to learn about it, to feel like they've got something special, that they know something and that when they communicate it out, we have a much larger impact.

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Right, that's what the goal is with LumaFlex.

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That's good.

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I think that having that app is awesome because we need reminders and, as you mentioned, consistency is key.

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So having those reminders to help them remember hey, today, have you used it yet, or however it comes across on the app that you use, is definitely needed, and we know that in coaching world in general, that's what clients need.

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They need those reminders, they need that support and accountability as well.

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So, and definitely the education along with that, as you mentioned, it does enhance how special it is, so that they believe in it and they will use it so that they can ultimately get the benefits from it that they need that's right.

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They get the passion.

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Passion is how we wake up every morning, the decisions we make is.

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Usually it's based on something that you know as simple as passion.

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If you have all the coaches that I've had in my life, it's their inspiration, as well as their instruction, but it's their inspiration that really, you know, moves.

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It really really got me going.

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Yeah, it makes a huge difference.

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Now you touched on this a little bit.

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Especially when it comes to pain, we want, you know, recovery to be turbocharged.

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Could you reveal any insider strategies that could optimize the use of red light therapy to help our bodies bounce back faster and stronger?

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Yeah, it's the most asked question I think in the whole photobiomodulation industry when it comes to pain.

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And the thing is is everyone's pain is different.

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Everyone's pain levels are different.

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Everybody's responses to treatment are different.

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The greatest thing about the human race is our differences.

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We have so much resource because everybody's different.

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But usually two key things are for pain relief.

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I always encourage for the device to touch your skin to make sure that you're getting close to the therapy.

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And the second thing is like we talked about with consistency.

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So I usually say for Lumaflex, because it has a 10-minute timer built into it.

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So we talked about with with consistency.

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So I usually say for Lumaflex, cause it has a 10 minute timer built into it, so we'll turn off after 10 minutes.

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So generally I'll give a 10 minute.

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You know, treatment session is kind of the overall standard.

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But then if you have very severe pain, if you have an injury and you're recovering, I would say up to four times a day, 10 minutes of time and then do that for for two weeks.

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Like I've talked to some athletes that are also there, they're quite famous and they endorse red light therapy.

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They will even say like up to four weeks.

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So it is.

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It's not a you're not trying to fix things on a surface level, you're, you are going.

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You're trying to fix things on a cellular level.

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So there can be a lot of time investment to be fully relieved of pain, like for my, my knee injury, which is I had a very, very bad left knee injury, and for me to recover from that injury from the device my wife gave me, which was it was a very old, the technology wasn't quite there yet at that time.

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It took two weeks for me not to have the pain anymore and I didn't even use the device.

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After that I gave it to her grandparents and I've had.

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I've seen people use red light therapy devices, not even a hundredth of the power of the Lumaflex, and they found relief.

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But then other people with pain that I would think would be gone very quickly, it's taken up to two weeks.

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So I always say two weeks, but invest four weeks if you need, you know, and be consistent.

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30 minutes a day or 40 minutes a day is a safe area to be in.

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And does the time differ depending on what it is that they need it for, like, if it's not pain something else, with the amount of time they use it?

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For?

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How frequently use it, barry?

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Usually for like migraines or if you wake up in the morning and you're feeling a bit droopy, you know you're.

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You're not as enthusiastic to get onto the computer and start doing emails.

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Usually just 10 minutes on the front of the your head and then 10 minutes on the back or on your neck is enough.

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Usually that that's plenty.

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If I have a headache or like just being on the computer all day and I'm getting a lot of this artificial light, or if it's you know it's stress, there's like a lot of calls coming in, there's a few deals being done or something's gone wrong with production.

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This is if you're in the business of making products.

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The biggest headache is the production side.

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It's actually the manufacturing of the product.

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So if there's a bit of stress, yeah, I will be very quick to put that on my neck, definitely my spine, put it there and then I'll definitely get it on the front.

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I'll do.

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I call this the iron man.

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I'll like hang it in my shirt.

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You know, you don't.

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I don't even need the straps.

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It comes with straps but I won't.

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I won't use them, I'll just put them in my clothes.

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But usually 10 minutes on your head is fine and then 10 minutes on your gut or maybe 20 minutes on your gut is fine, and then 10 minutes on your gut or maybe 20 minutes on your gut.

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It always varies to each person.

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For me, because I'm a big red light therapy junkie, you could say I do overuse it.

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I'll use it a lot, but when I look at the brain side, optimizing cognitive energy and focus, usually it's around 10 minutes, and then for pain it's about 20 minutes or more.

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For overall well-being, usually it's about 20 minutes or more.

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For overall wellbeing, usually it's 10 minutes is enough.

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I've seen amazing results for people with brain with five minutes, three to five minutes, like with the migraines.

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Yeah, with migraines or with just like.

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This is another space I would encourage if you wanted to talk to another guest.

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I know a neuroscientist by the name of Sarah Turner turner.

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So her passion is to use red light therapy to cure brain disease, parkinson's, like this is what she's trying to do and she has a device that is like for the head, specifically for the head, and she's able to use red light therapy.

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She's able to frequent different frequencies.

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So for focus, for energy, you know, for relaxation, she can program it with the app to have frequencies right into your head.

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And I've seen like amazing stuff on that front red light therapy and brain.

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I went to um I'm part of a veterans group because a lot of the feedback we get for lumaflex is from veterans Will this help my shoulder, you know?

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Will this help my arthritis?

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Because they've got all these conditions being obviously coming back home here, and I went to a veteran's center where they had a brain device and they told me like sometimes three minutes, you know, a veteran's life can be completely turned around.

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Yeah, that world is great to learn about.

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I learned so much from those scientists.

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I see amazing work in the future with red light therapy in the brain.

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Amazing work.

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Oh, thank you John.

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It seems like the red light therapy is completely accessible, safe, you know, non-invasive, something that people can fit into their lifestyle rather easily and also thrive in, and I can definitely see how, in conjunction with other healthy lifestyle changes and nutrition pay attention to nutrition and stress management that red light therapy could definitely help people that are suffering from a variety of ailments.

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So I want to thank you for educating us all about red light therapy and for joining us today on Pivoting Pharmacy with Nutrigenomics.

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It's been a pleasure.

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Been a pleasure, thank you.

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And there you have it, friend.

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John Graham just took us on a deep dive behind the scenes of red light therapy and how we can all bend the light towards a better tomorrow.

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It's not magic.

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It's the marvel of action, of turning pain into possibility on our own terms.

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Here's the beacon burning bright for you.

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Find your luminex, whatever that may be in your life.

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Harness that same inventiveness and courage John showed in creating a solution that not only serves you but also ignites the spirit of community around you.

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Pin that badge of resilience to your chest and wear it fiercely.

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Your challenge, should you choose to accept it, is to step into renewal and revival and redefine what recovery means to you, Because healing is not just a physical journey.

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It's emotional, it's spiritual, it's the all encompassing embrace of wellness.

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You've got this.

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There's a world of recovery and strength waiting for you to claim it.

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If your spirit is calling out for a sign, consider this your neon flashing.

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