The Secrets Behind Thriving Through Menopause with Amita Sharma

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I think you just have to try some of the things slowly and start feeling the difference.

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I was hesitant too when I started getting all these heart flashes.

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I wanted to take a medication and didn't really want to work hard to embrace all the holistic therapies.

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It will take time, but you will see the energy that you have.

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It's like amazing and I can vouch for myself, and I have more energy than I had 20 years back.

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That is the honest truth.

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Hello and welcome to Pivoting Pharmacy with Neutrogenomics.

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I'm Dr Tamar, lawful Doctor of Pharmacy and Certified Nutritional Genomics Specialist.

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If you've been riding a roller coaster of menopause, with its hot flashes that come out of nowhere, nights spent tossing and turning or sudden weight changes that leave you baffled, you're definitely not alone.

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I know it feels like a mystery that's just waiting to be solved, and that's exactly why we're here today.

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We're diving deep into a conversation that actually just isn't had often enough.

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We're gonna unlock the secrets to not just surviving but thriving through menopause.

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It's easy to feel like traditional medications are your only option, and while they work for some, the side effects can often feel worse than the symptoms themselves.

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But what if I told you there was another way, a path less taken that leads to relief and balance without the compromise.

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That leads to relief and balance without the compromise.

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So we're going to tackle this subject today, but first I actually want to recognize the significant role of genetics in shaping our experiences.

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There are certain genes that contribute to the intricacies of fertility and sexual health, while others subtly influence our hormonal landscape, particularly as it pertains to menopause.

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Subtly influence our hormonal landscape, particularly as it pertains to menopause.

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For example, genes like FSHB and FSHR play crucial roles in the complex process of fertility, acting as key performance in the orchestra of reproductive health.

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In contrast, we have genes like CYP17, which contributes in a more nuanced way, affecting aspects of sexual desire and function.

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As women approach the phase of menopause, their genetic composition acts as an invisible timekeeper determining when this notable phase of life will begin, and this interplay of genetics and biology marks the onset of menopause, the pivotal transition in the life of many women.

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Guiding us through this conversation on menopause and sexual health is Amita Sharma, the co-founder of Nourish Doc, a holistic wellness platform that's at the forefront of holistic health management.

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Amita and her team believe in tackling menopause head-on, but in a way that respects our body's natural balance.

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They combine diet, exercise, ayurveda, breath work and more, tailoring a menopause management plan that's as unique as you are.

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So whether you're curious about the difference between perimenopause and menopause, searching for holistic therapies that actually deliver results, or interested in how a nutrigenomic testing could craft your personalized health blueprint, this episode is for you.

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Listen in Hi Amita, welcome to Pivoting Pharmacy with Nutrigenomics.

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It's my pleasure to have you join us today and I'm looking forward to our conversation.

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How are you?

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Yeah, I'm doing great, thank you.

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Happy Monday.

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Yes, happy Monday, amita.

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Could you start off by sharing your journey to how you got to where you are today in alternative and holistic health solutions?

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Yeah Well, first of all, a big disclaimer I'm not a medical professional.

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I know you are a pharmacist, a PhD.

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So my journey has been working in corporate high-tech very fast-paced.

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You have to be on it 24 by 7, otherwise you are left behind.

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But in this journey I started experiencing perimenopause symptoms which I was completely unaware of and it started impacting my work, my life, my personal life, my psychological, mental, you name it.

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It just kind of took me, engulfed me, and that's not the time when I started that I'm going to start working on this.

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But in the background I wanted to do something on the holistic and one thing led to another.

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Between the holistic I thought well, what if I combine the digital part with really helping other women and getting to the mid-age?

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That's kind of how this whole idea genesis of Nourish Talk started.

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Okay, thank you for sharing that, amita.

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Now I have a question because many women I'm 44 years old and I've spoken to a variety of women my age and younger, even older, who really honestly are not.

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They're in perimenopause.

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What's perimenopause?

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So can you explain what perimenopause is and how would they know what are some symptoms?

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Yeah, I mean, you are a perfect example of a typical perimenopausal woman.

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I don't know if that has started in you or not yet, but typically perimenopause starts in 40s, early 40s.

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You could also be starting in mid 30s nowadays.

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Right Now, the perimenopause is really the transition towards menopause.

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The menopause is not one switch.

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It's not a switch like you know.

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Our periods start and the periods stop.

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Yeah, that happens.

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But it's a transition of four to 10 years before a woman stops her periods and technically, she's in menopause.

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So the perimenopause is the transition period.

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10 years approximately before you hit the menopause.

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That's what perimenopause is.

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So 10 years, 10 years, I know.

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So, amita, what type of symptoms may they be experiencing?

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Are there any specific symptoms for that time frame?

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first symptom.

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Typically, first symptom is your irregular periods.

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You know your periods could be shorter, like shorter in the sense of stand of 28 days.

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You might get it after 21 days.

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It might be heavier initially.

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That's the early perimenopause.

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First perimenopause, our hormone that's leaving us is progesterone, so you're going to have some mood swings, right.

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So these are the early signs that you could be going in perimenopause.

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And then, as you start progressing, your estrogen, the other hormone, also starts going down.

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And then you have all these other symptoms heart flashes, sleep issues, weight gain, gut health.

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I don't want to scare you, but there are over 34 plus symptoms that are recorded, or maybe more to perimenopause, not menopause oh my goodness, I thought all those symptoms were actually part of menopause.

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I have some of them, so I was like, oh, I'm going through menopause I'm only 44, so it's actually perimenopause.

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Thank you for clarifying that.

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Thank you for clarifying that, so I know there's some challenges that are surrounded around discussing menopause and sexual health as well.

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In your experience, amita, what are some of the biggest challenges or misconceptions people face when discussing menopause and sexual health openly?

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yeah, so it's a right.

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It has been a taboo for so many years decades actually, not years and sexual health is one of the symptoms that women get impacted with Low libido.

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It can happen, also your UTI, you know that can happen.

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Your pelvic health area can get impacted.

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So all these things right, we're not very open about talking about this and if, let's say, hypothetically, if a woman is having low libido or even painful sex and there's not open communication with your partner, that can also impact your relationships about it openly.

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We feel, for some reason, there's a shame associated with it, there's a taboo, maybe not in the 40 something, but definitely in the generation of 50 something women or 60 something women.

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Now you should talk about it, you know your mom never talked about my mom never talked about it.

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So that's what it is.

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It's much more than just losing your sexual drive or use.

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It is all relating your relationships then, your mood swings and your all the family dynamics.

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And you could be caregiver in that age group.

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You know, caring for your aging parents, caring for your teenage kids.

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You know I'm talking about 50 plus someone and also your libido going down.

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So it's very complicated.

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On top of that, we don't talk about it.

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That makes it worse.

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That's so true it's like taboo.

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So if you don't talk about it, we don't know.

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I mean, we know it's happening because we're experiencing it, but we might think we're the only ones and that no one else is really experiencing what we're experiencing.

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But when we talk about it, we put that on the table.

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We know that we're not alone in that and in what you do with your holistic health platform, you help a variety of women with holistic approaches to menopause and sexual health.

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So could you share with us some non-traditional or holistic approaches that have proven effective in managing symptoms of menopause?

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Yeah, yeah, there are so many.

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So our platform is self-care first.

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We are not against taking medication, that's not the point.

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The point is, you know you have to self-care first, using holistic therapies.

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So some of the therapies that have a lot of evidence and research is, for example, diet.

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We know food as medicine.

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We know that yoga has a ton of research nowadays that can help with the menopause symptoms.

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Breathing techniques different type of breathing techniques can help you with all these, what I'm talking about.

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Exercise, certain type of exercise, mixing the exercise, like weight-bearing exercise, to prevent bone loss, as an example.

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Then hypnotherapy has a lot of research on weight issues, on gut health issues.

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Right.

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Then we have Ayurveda.

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Ayurveda has a complete medical system that can help you with all the symptoms that you can think of, including acupuncture and traditional Chinese medicine.

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Aromatherapy essential oils can help you calm down.

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So, it's like a plethora of choices.

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You calm down, so it's just like a plethora of choices.

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The problem is that we women I really don't know that we have all these therapies as a toolkit so that we can start using them.

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At least, I did not know.

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I agree with you on that, amita.

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A lot of us don't realize that we have other options besides medications, and I also agree with you that not necessarily saying that medication shouldn't be used, but with the medications, we can use these non-traditional and holistic approaches to really alleviate our symptoms through menopause and sexual health issues.

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I know cultural sensitivity is something that you have to consider because, just like you, I work with women from different cultures and backgrounds and I remember reading in your bio that you had to pretty much overcome, like the submissive mindset when it comes to addressing these issues.

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So when, along the lines of cultural sensitivity, with menopause and sexual health, because it is viewed differently across different cultures, how does NourishDoc, your company that you're co-founder of, cater to these diverse perspectives in the recommendations that you provide?

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Absolutely so.

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Menopause is different, for as for different cultures, for different ethnic groups, is the age of the menopause, as well as the symptoms, are different.

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So, for example, like an average age for menopause is 51, 52, but Latino and African-American ethnic groups women get it around 47, 48, or two to three years earlier.

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And that is generally not very good because you're losing your hormones earlier than you're supposed to.

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Right Now, Indian women which I am, heritage from Indian women they get it from mid 40s.

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So all these things, if you combine with their cultural sort of like submissive or, you know, they're kind of subdued in some of the cultures impact the menopause.

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Now, in our app, what we are trying to do is show a culture sensitivity towards what culture you're coming from and helping you to at least be aware of if you're going to get an early menopause, as an example, or if you're going to have different type of symptoms.

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You know, for example, the heart flashes are more aggravated in Latino and African American women than Japanese women or Asian women, as an example.

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So all these intricacies and nuances are so complicated and built into that we are trying to incorporate within our app a sort of like a cohort through that and have these, whatever symptoms are relevant to a cultural group, help them navigate through their cultural dispositions, so to speak.

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That is kind of what we are trying to do I love that, amita, there is that personalization right there that each client that comes to nourish dot can get, related to what their cultural background is, and when it comes to health, it's really needed.

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We need that personalization because we're all different.

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We're all different and, in addition to that, knowing that it's personalized for you really has a huge impact that I don't think a lot of people realize.

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That personalization is key and it has a huge impact on how people really respond and stick to the recommendations that are provided for them, when they feel like, oh, this is just for me, yes, just for me.

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Now, when it comes to the scientific backing, research and evidence related to the recommendations that are provided for your clients, how does NourishDoc ensure that these recommendations are backed by solid research and evidence?

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Whatever information that is being provided in the app is by the expert.

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It's not like an AI-generated articles or blogs or stuff like that.

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That's number one, and all the information that the experts are providing are generally backed by science and research that has been published.

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You know, anybody can check it on PubMed or so to speak.

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Now, there are not so many clinical trials, so to speak, like, in the sense, the way medication has it.

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Not so many of them because this is still an upcoming field holistic therapies and holistic all those things.

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But there could be a research, for example, on on phytoestrogen as an example, right, how phytoestrogen can help with women who are going through these hormonal balance.

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So there is a research and papers and universities have done it.

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So these kind of research papers have been carefully backed by whatever we are presenting in the app.

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Like I said, the clinical trials might not be present for everything, but that field is still coming up.

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There's nothing we can do.

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We just follow along whatever the research is available and present that.

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Excellent.

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That's good to know.

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Now I would love to, if you're able to, to see if you can share some success stories or notable outcomes where holistic therapies actually significantly improved clients, menopause or sexual health issues.

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Would you be able to share at least one with us?

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yeah, so, um, it's a woman actually in somewhere in uk and, uh, the problem was sleep, mainly the sleep, and the sleep was to be leading to all the cognition issues, productivity.

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Actually it happened with me as well.

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Now there's probably a I think it's a randomized trial that has been done on combining yoga plus the breathing techniques, plus the meditation, a 12-week program including with the nutrition, and once you take that, that whole program, it helps with the sleep and because of the sleep you you know it can help with other your productivity, your cognition.

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In addition to that that, there was also an ayurvedic therapy that was administered, a sort of like our supplements, ayurvedic supplements, along with some of the panchakarma therapies, the ayurvedic therapies.

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So all these combinations were just not one thing.

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That's the problem here in the holistic therapies, in a way, is not just one single pill that's going to impact and you'll be fine.

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It's a combination of so many different therapies that were administered to women to help them with their sleep issues and also with their cognition issues and their productivity issues.

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So this is so many success stories and their productivity issues.

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So there's so many success stories.

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But, like I said again and again, the holistic therapy is not a one pill that women can take.

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It takes daily routine.

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It takes really incorporating your daily routine and building these lifestyle modifications into your daily life so that you can have a higher quality of life.

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So that is the big difference in holistic therapies versus the medicine, but it works.

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Yeah, that is so true.

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It's multiple things that can be used to help, but it's not one and done, it's something that we have to continue doing.

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They say usually 30 days to form a habit, but 90 days to make it a lifestyle.

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So we have to continually be added at these new changes so that it becomes part of our lives naturally.

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You know, the first 30 days is great, but we have to keep going.

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That's right, and these are all 12 week programs that I'm sharing with you, and the idea is not just do it for 12 weeks and then abandon it.

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Like you said yourself, you have to continuously make it into part of your daily habit, you know if you want to sustain that kind of quality of life.

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Exactly Now.

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What advice would you offer to someone who is hesitant to explore holistic treatments for menopause or sexual health?

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You know, I think the best way to start is food as medicine.

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We all need food every day.

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So if you're hesitant, just start with some plant-based diet, at least 50%, 60% of the time, and start feeling the difference.

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You know, typically we say 80-20.

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So I think you just have to try some of the things slowly and start feeling the difference.

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I was hesitant to, you know, initially when I started getting all these of heart flashes.

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I want to take a medication and didn't really want to work hard to embrace all the holistic therapies.

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And I, I would say, start with a simple diet modifications first, and then the second would be start with the movement, you know, with a little bit of an exercise, and it was simple.

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Essential is to just kind of dab it and see how you start feeling and then you will start feeling the difference.

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And then slowly, slowly, you start incorporating the other therapies that I was talking about.

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It will take time but you will see the energy that you have.

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It's like amazing and I can vouch for myself that I always used to get fatigued, you know all the time I would have a hard time waking up in the morning and I have more energy than I had 20 years back.

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That is the honest truth and it's all because of all the holistic therapies and the lifestyle modification that I have embraced, you know, in my day-to-day life.

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I agree with you 100%.

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You said start with the diet and you've mentioned a couple of times food is medicine.

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We cannot sleep on that advice.

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Food is, nutrition is key.

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Everybody, nutrition is key.

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Actually, one of my first clients came to me because she was in menopause and having horrible hot flashes and she tried the acupuncture.

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She dropped red meat.

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But there are a few components, key components of nutrition that she wasn't aware of, which I helped her in my program, as I'm sure you're familiar with that, like the nutrition, within a week, a couple, they start seeing tremendous changes in their symptoms, with just changing how they eat.

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And when it comes to people being reluctant to take on holistic treatments I don't know if you found the same thing Sometimes it's usually the last resort.

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They've tried everything else and it's not working.

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So now they're like, okay, let me just try this because nothing else is working.

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Yeah, that's how it's been with me.

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Whatever it is they're coming for, they usually tried everything else and now they just want to try something else.

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But yeah, everyone, don't be afraid to add on a holistic approach to what you're doing already If you don't want to go cold turkey, off of medications or off of whatever else you've already been doing, but take on a holistic approach.

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Add that onto what you're already doing.

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Just try it.

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There won't be any harm in it.

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I mean, I'm sure you'll agree with me.

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And you said they'll only see benefits, they'll only get benefits from it.

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Right, Absolutely To your point with the work that you're doing in nutrigenomics, you know it's all based on testing.

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So if women feel that it's not at all, they can get tested.

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And as for their metabolism, as for their constitution, the right type of holistic plan can be administered, including the diet, the nutrients that they're able to do, or the supplements, all of that thing.

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So it's not just like, okay, eat this, eat this.

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There's a personalization with using the testing as a tool to really design the complete holistic plan that's personalized for you.

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Yeah, that's true.

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Thanks for pointing that out, because genetically we have genes that contribute to our sexual desire, our sexual function, our hormones that are going to affect menopause, perimenopause and the symptoms associated with that affect menopause, perimenopause and the symptoms associated with that.

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So by doing a nutrigenomic test, you can identify where your genes stand in those aspects and it will give you very specific recommendations on food, exercise, stress management to alleviate or help you through the time that you're going through and those symptoms that you have.

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So definitely personalized and testing so that you don't have to guess what you have to do.

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It's definitely a great addition or tool to use in the holistic approach to managing menopause, perimenopause and sexual health.

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So thank you for bringing that out.

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Now, amita, I'm excited to know what do you have coming up?

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Are there any new developments or innovations that you're excited about in the field of holistic treatment for menopause and sexual health?

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Or what does NourishDoc have coming up?

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Well, nourishdoc is releasing the app right now.

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We have been doing traditional webinars, you know, for the last couple of years, but now we felt the need to come up with the app.

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That's super affordable less than 10 bucks a month so women can get a handle on all the things that you and I are talking about.

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They have the evidence.

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So that's what we are super excited.

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And then, as the next step, I want to add the nutrigenomics.

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You know the testing that you and I are talking about, so maybe we'll have an opportunity to partner, collaborate Ideas.

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We want to bring the science and the evidence part of it right, and that's really what my passion is to bring that so that women feel more confident that things like nutrigenomics, some kind of hormone testing based on that, it's not the medication that you need, it's all the ideas that the doctor can prescribe.

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Okay, you take like a broccoli as an example, right or supplement of ashwagandha or, okay, breathing of shata, whatever XYZ, and essential oil of that and meditation of that.

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That's your pill.

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That is what I'm super excited.

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Based on the testing, the pill is like that.

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And then if someone needs HRT, that's okay.

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We are not saying don't take HRT, right.

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So it's really combining the cutting edge testing out there and using the basic food as medicine, movement as medicine, combining that and presenting solutions to call.

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We should live in holistic life.

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That's really what we are trying to do here oh, congratulations.

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I just have chills hearing that.

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So congratulations on the app.

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I think the app to make things so much more easier for our clients to just have access to a platform that helps them on a day-to-day in their health app is a great option.

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And then the addition of nutrigenomics you already know I'm biased, so I love, I love that.

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Nutrigenomics all the way, all day, every day.

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It's definitely going to be a valuable tool for you, for Nourish Docs, so I'm excited.

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Definitely reach out to me if you have any questions.

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Yes, absolutely.

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Yeah, that's great.

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So for our listeners Amita, who are interested, how can they engage with NourishDoc to learn more about managing their health holistically?

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Well, right now they go to our website.

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The link for the app is going to be up, hopefully soon, so wwwnourishdoccom.

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And then, as we release the app, we will be posting it on all of our social channels, so stay tuned for that.

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Okay, great, amita.

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Thank you again for joining us on Pivoting Pharmacy with Nutrigenomics.

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It's been a pleasure and I'm looking forward to our future collaboration.

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That's all I have for you today, friend.

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