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taking responsibility and focusing on what I can do, instead of thinking oh no, woe is me.
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Was what was going to help me get to the next level of healing if you want to break the mold of traditional pharmacy and health care, you are in the right place.
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Welcome to the pivoting pharmacy with nutrigenomics podcast, part of the pharmacy Network.
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Here's a little truth bomb.
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We're all unique, own to our DNA, so it's no wonder we react differently to the same medications, foods and environment.
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Here's a million dollar question how can you discover exactly what your body needs, which medication, what foods or supplements and which exercises are right for you?
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How can you manage chronic conditions like diabetes without more medications?
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How can you lose weight and keep it off?
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How do you tap into your genetic blueprint so you can stop surviving and start thriving in health and life?
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That is the question, and this podcast will give you the answer.
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I'm your host, dr Tamar, lawful doctor of pharmacy.
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Let's pivot into genomics and bring healthcare to higher levels.
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Welcome back to Pivoting Pharmacy of Nutrigenomics.
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I'm your host, dr Tamar, lawful Dr of Pharmacy and Certified Nutritional Genomics Specialist.
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Today we're going to tackle a topic that can be sensitive for many hair loss.
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It's something that affects more people than we realize and it's rarely discussed, but we're going to change that narrative today.
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Hair loss, also medically known as alopecia, affects a significant portion of both men and women.
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The prevalence varies based on a multitude of factors, including genetics, age and health conditions.
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It's estimated that up to 50% of men will experience some form of hair loss by the time they reach the age of 50.
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Androgenetic alopecia, or male pattern baldness, is the most common form of hair loss in men.
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In women, female pattern hair loss can affect around 25 to 30% of women in their lifetime, but the likelihood increases with age.
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By the age of 50, around 40% of women may experience noticeable hair loss.
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So what can be done about it?
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What are some reasons you may be losing your hair?
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Well, today's guest, cyril Vasquez, has some answers.
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She'll share her compelling personal experience with hair loss, battling it for over a decade before fighting her path to regrowth.
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We'll also explore critical factors that impact your hair health.
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So if you're dealing with hair loss, or if you know someone who is, this episode is especially for you.
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Listen in.
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Well, cyril, thank you so much for joining us on Pivoting Pharmacy with Nutrigenomics.
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I'm excited to have you here today.
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You know to kick things off.
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Can you share a little bit about yourself with our audience?
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Yeah, and it's such a pleasure to be here with you today, tamar.
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Thank you for having me on your show, and being able to share the mic with you, with your audience, is always an opportunity that I do not take for granted.
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So let's pour into your community by giving them a little bit of context of who I am and what I've been through and why I'm here today.
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I am a multi-certified functional medicine practitioner that is obsessed with reversing hair loss naturally using diet the right diet for each individual person, because we're all bio-individually unique the right targeted supplement protocol that is specialized according to that person's individual needs and the right lifestyle practices.
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And the reason why I became obsessed about this was because, at the tender age of 24 years old, I suffered from hair loss and thinning, and it was an eight-year struggle before I made this decision that I was going to figure out how to reverse it naturally, and it took me two years to do that.
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So, all in it was a decade long experience with a lot of emotions you know emotions of oh my gosh, why is this happening to me?
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And oh no, they said it was irreversible.
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And well, I might as well just start looking for wigs, or no, no, no, I'm not going to give up.
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And so I had 10 years of experience in the medical field, and the professionals that I had built relationships with were my friends, and so I said hey, remember me, I brought you the cookies.
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Now it's time to help me.
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So I had a binder that I created of labs.
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It was probably like two or three inches thick, and it was so intense that I created a table of contents for them.
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And I numbered the pages and it was like in that clear paper and everything, and I was just like OK, look on page 27, my carbon dioxide is high, and on page 22, my estrogen is high.
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And I was pointing it out to them.
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But they didn't have a diagnosis to stick on me, except for androgenetic alopecia.
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At one point they thought PCOS.
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At another point, te actually had scar tissue under my scalp, so that was part of the equation as well.
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But regardless of what it was they would label me with, there really wasn't much hope, and so I went to a personal development event with none other than Tony Robbins, whom I'm sure some of your listeners are familiar with, and he was talking about how people often get stuck in a breakthrough and he asked them why.
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And they say I've tried everything and I realized oh, that's me.
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I'm saying I've tried everything, but there's really no way that I've tried everything and every single combination at every single time.
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What about things that haven't even been invented yet?
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And so, when I took on that approach, I spent an absorbent amount of $75,000 in just two years that I didn't even have.
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I mean, I had to refinance my home, I had to sell my car because my car was moldy, I took out credit card loans and everything that I could do $20,000 of that alone was on hyperbaric oxygen therapy, because mold was part of the problem with me.
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And so I went through the gamut, really trying everything at that point, and then I had gotten so far to the point where I had less shedding and I was seeing a little bit of regrowth, but the scarring that I had all over my scalp, which made my hair so thin and see-through, to the point where the texture of my hair had changed, I wasn't resolving that and, ironically, at that point I was trying the famous fruititarian diet because I was so ready to get the resolution, and that actually made my hair even worse because of the amount of sugar that my diet was involving at that point, and so I had to get rid of the scarring.
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And I looked up into the heavens and I was like God, please help me, because I would try to move my scalp up and down and forward and back, and I couldn't do that.
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It was so stiff because of all the scarring.
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And when I plead into the heavens, literally I went to the interwebs and I started searching something I searched a gazillion times before about scar tissue, but I ended up finding something different.
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And so I feel like in that moment it was like the nail in the coffin, the divine intervention that just helped me put all the pieces of the puzzle to get a resolution of reversing hair loss naturally.
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And I realized that the spironolactone I had tried and the minoxidil and all of that, they worked to a certain extent, but they didn't do justice to the real root cause issue.
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And so I realized that I was responsible to a certain degree for my hair loss and thinning, that it was only 20% genetics and actually 80% environment.
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And I realized that, as I mentioned before, diet was a key factor.
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With all the sugar I was eating, it was also environmental mold in my environment hormones that I was taking, because this nightmare started when I got off of birth control.
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Immense shedding just began at that point and it made me estrogen dominant and my body wasn't able to recuperate and it just created this spiraling experience for me where I became very toxic.
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My body had a hard time regulating itself and I realized that taking responsibility and focusing on what I can do instead of thinking, oh no, woe is me was really what was going to help me get to the next level of healing.
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Wow, we have a lot to unpack here.
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Cyril, thank you for sharing the path that you went on to get to where you are today, and you mentioned a cascade of events that led to your hair loss the hormonal imbalances, your environment.
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Could you maybe elaborate on some misconceptions that people might have when it comes to hair loss, because some things that you mentioned people may not have realized can contribute towards that loss.
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You're right, absolutely, because we're not taught to think that way.
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We're taught to think about genes and science and intercepting that with our technological advances, which I feel definitely has a space, our technological advances, which I feel definitely has a space.
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I've seen people with hepatitis C get the cure and live.
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Their livers were saved from cirrhosis, and people with HIV get on medication and not develop AIDS, and so I see that there's an inherent need for that.
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But I think, when it comes to the management of something like hair loss, where we're really looking at a person, that their body is already trying to regrow hair, but it's somehow lost its way, and so it's less about introducing some kind of chemistry and more so supporting the body's natural ability to be able to heal itself.
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And the common misconceptions that I see are the fact that hormones are everything, and so people might feel that way, because there are a lot of other hormonal issues that happen at the same time as hair loss.
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A lot of my clients can't sleep anymore, or their libido's gone, or they have weight they can't lose.
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These are all hormone-related issues, but it's not so much the hormones that are causing the issue.
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It's why the hormones are out of balance in the first place.
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That's the issue, right.
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And so in my case it was.
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I introduced synthetic estrogen or progesterone or whatever chemistry was involved in the patch that tricked my body into thinking was pregnant and got my body to not be as used to creating a progesterone or whatever, creating that balance.
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And so when I took that away, estrogen was like oh, I know what to do, and my ovaries and progesterone were like wait, wait, wait, you were giving me this, you know.
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Now I don't know what's going on here, and it just spiraled out of control to the sense where estrogen has a proliferative effect because of the relationship it has with, you know, the capillaries and blood, and you know it can grow cancer, it can create migraines and a host of other things, and so, because of that, it does create the environment to make gut health not as optimal as it should be.
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And so Candida, which we all have, which is a commensal, you know, organism within us, it proliferated and had a horrible diet at that time, I was just eating lots of sugar and candy I mean, I was 24, you know and so I noticed things like mucus in the stool and frequent yeast infections, and then I was just like, well, this is strange.
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It just wasn't happening before.
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I'm noticing the shedding, and so when the gut is out of control or the microbiome is not where it needs to be, then beta-glucuronidase is an enzyme that comes onto the scene and it will release the estrogen that I was trying to conjugate to bile and successfully excrete in the toilet, and when that releases the estrogen I was trying to for lack of a better term poop out.
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Now I end up becoming more estrogen dominant, because this estrogen metabolite that was more toxic as the body, when it tries to break down estrogen, it will create a more volatile version of it through the different phases of liver detoxification, and so it's supposed to temporarily be more volatile, and then it's supposed to conjugate and you poop it out.
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But when beta-glucuronidase is releasing it, then you end up becoming more estrogen dominant, on top of the fact that the bile in your gallbladder becomes clumpier and less fluid and less capable of conjugating with the estrogen as well.
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And so what ends up happening is you get the negative feedback loop where you have a hormone that you can't excrete properly and that has that proliferative effect on different organisms because it can cause breast cancer and other things, and so you just create this perfect storm for the development of multiple disease states or disease dis-eases, I should say.
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Yeah, it's like a domino effect.
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Now can we talk about your true cellular detox process.
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How does this go beyond traditional detox methods?
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My certification process allowed me to understand in great depth how if you heal the cell, then all is well, and so the cell membrane.
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It becomes hardened when there's too much toxicity, and then that is going to affect the ability for cells to purge all toxicants, which is going to affect even their ability to have well-functioning receptors on the cell sites.
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And so that's where all of the issues come in.
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And I'm doing that now because I'm preparing for pregnancy.
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My husband and I are planning to conceive.
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Yeah.
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So I wanted to detox my body to a cellular level where I'm even detoxing the heavy metals in my brain, and so going through that process I actually suffered a little bit more hair loss than usual, but I put myself on a protocol to offset that.
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But it was a temporary sacrifice for a long-term goal, because I wanted to detoxify myself that intensely just to carry less toxicants in my placenta when I conceive.
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Yeah, you have to make that soil healthy, right, ready to plant and ready to plant.
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Make that soil healthy, right, ready to plant and ready to plant.
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So that's awesome.
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I wish you and your husband the best with that.
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I'm sure everything was turned out well.
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Now you mentioned bio-individualism, so how do you do that with your clients?
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I have all my clients go through a very intricate onboarding process I mean it's almost 100.
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A very intricate onboarding process.
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I mean it's almost a hundred questions that I'm asking them, like were you born vaginally or from a C-section all the way to?
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Did you get that virus that was going around and the medication for it?
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So by having such an in-depth overview of all the clinical instances in their life that contributed to setting them up to express hair loss and thinning, then I have a clear understanding of how to bio-individually help that person get to a state where they're able to reverse their hair loss naturally by putting their body in a place where it can prioritize hair growth, because it's not going to prioritize hair growth if you're chronically in a stressed state, if you're chronically releasing cortisol and epinephrine and norepinephrine and adrenaline because you have either mental situation that's making you perceive stress or an environmental in your body situation that's making you perceive stress, whether it be from allergens you're consistently exposed to or some sort of low-grade chronic infection or a low-grade inflammatory process that never finishes.
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So all of these things can be interpreted as stress in the body and if I have a client that's filling out this form and I'm noticing there's a lot of trauma in their history and I'm noticing that when they moved to a certain home they ended up developing a certain amount of symptoms.
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That is going to affect how I am positioning this person to go after that result of less hair shedding and more thickening of the hair and breaking down the scar tissue so we can get those bald spots to fill.
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So I can give you an example I had a client that was 60, early 60s, in her early 60s and she had hair loss for 30 years.
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And she said, for real, I have no idea why this started, how this started or how to make it stop.
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And so we did this intake for her and I started looking at the fact that she was a painter.
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She was a painting teacher, so she's chronically exposed to all these chemicals from work and I started noticing that her symptoms triggered when she started working at a particular job one of the jobs that she had and there was mold in that building and people would say, oh my gosh, when I come in here I smell mold and I don't know why, but even more so at that time in her life where the scarring started to spread and she had the thinning and the crown.
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It was when she changed to a vegetarian diet.
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But she was eating a lot of fruit in that diet, a lot of sugar, and so that threw off her gut microbiome and started feeding more candida.
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Candida can live on the scalp.
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The scalp might say we don't want that there.
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It creates some scar tissue, so it's not sustainable for that, and so the body's going to do what it does to prioritize what's important to it.
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And she had already stopped or minimized her sugar consumption just from listening to all of my free content.
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And she realized when she did that her hair shedding dramatically reduced.
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And so she was like, oh my gosh, this girl is onto something.
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So we ended up working together and we are noticing some thickening in her crown and the scalp is less visible and it's starting to fill in.
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And the missing factor in all of that is the mold that she's being exposed to at her job.
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But she's aware of that now and she's already gotten some kind of result even though she still has that exposure.
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So there's proof of concept that the factors that we're able to control with her diet and her lifestyle practices and the supplements, they're already working as much as they can in spite of that consistent exposure, and so we know that the next level for her is for her to consider a different employment opportunity.
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Yeah, the environment, the food.
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You mentioned the intake of the sugar.
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That is definitely going to play a role in the hair loss and how that affects our body.
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And you mentioned that candida growth.
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They just they love to thrive off of that sugar.
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Now, for someone right now who is struggling with their health issues similar to what you or your clients might experience, what's one piece of advice that you'd give them to start their healing journey today?
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I would say you need to become a master of listening to your body, because the body is always communicating with us, with us.
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And so one of the things that I have my clients do when we as a group go through a 21 day challenge where we're abstaining from sugar, gluten, dairy corn, rice, because those are highly inflammatory foods that, in many cases, help people from experiencing healing.
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So when we go through these experiences, I have them fill out food trackers and we're looking at what did you eat?
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How much did you sleep?
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How much water did you drink?
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What were your symptoms that day?
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I don't care if your eye was twitching or you had a leg cramp or you passed odorous gas.
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I want to know.
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I want to know it all, because it's all connected and it's a clue as to what is in need of assistance in your body to get it to that homeostasis right.
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We're also looking at poop, and how often do they go?
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Is it odorous?
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What color is it?
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Is there mucus in there?
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Is there undigested food?
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All of that is helpful in helping us understand what is going on internally with this person.
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Gut health is a big part of reversing hair loss.
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Naturally, if we do not have a gut that is able to break down the food that you're eating with sufficient stomach acid so that it doesn't have to create extra bacteria in the colon to compensate for that.
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If we don't have a gut microbiome, that's healthy and it's creating the opportunity for beta glucuronidase and estrogen dominance.
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If we don't have a gut that isn't permeable, which can create a chronic inflammatory event in your body, if we don't have stools that are moving regularly, all of this is setting the stage for toxemia and someone being more chronically susceptible to genes turning on and someone being more chronically susceptible to genes turning on.
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And so these are all things that we focus on in the community to help people understand that these symptoms aren't random and there are choices you are making.
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What you're eating, what you're thinking, what you're breathing in, what you're putting in your skin All of these things are contributing to the issue.
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And, on top of all that, we also track hair.
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Was hair falling out more?
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Was your scalp less pliable?
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Was it more pliable?
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What was going on with the pH of the scalp?
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Are you seeing more flakiness?
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All of these things we look at together so that we can start becoming what I call a belcanic, which is the master of her body mechanics to reveal her inner bell.
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I love it.
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A mechanic, I absolutely love it, and I'm going to pull up some pictures that you have of what your hair used to be like, and while I'm doing that, I came across a quote that you have and I want you to elaborate more on that, and that quote, I saw, was for through wisdom, your days will be many and your years will be added to your life.
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How has this perspective influenced both your personal journey, cyril, and the advice that you give your students and clients?
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I realized that nothing could be more true.
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When we get to this point where we have hair loss and thinning and we're desperate for something different.
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Oftentimes we can become exploited in that journey and we can end up buying a lot of things that don't work.
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We can end up throwing a bunch of crap at the wall trying to see what sticks.
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There are a lot of video testimonials after that and then at the bottom there's a whole bunch of other pictures of other clients that I was able to help.
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But when we don't understand what it is that we are trying to remedy and we're not taking a thoughtful approach towards it and we're just being very random in our approach because we're desperate, we're always going to be a victim.
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We're never going to learn anything.
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My story didn't change until I changed my strategy.
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I had to go from the person that was throwing crap at the wall randomly, just hoping something worked.
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I didn't even know what was working, but I didn't care.
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To this person that was like okay, what changed when I started taking this?
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What changed when I started doing that?
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Why did it work?
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How can it work for someone else?
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What else did I notice?
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And so being able to be more open to your understanding of how your body's feeling and what's happening in your body is the only way that you can protect yourself from someone saying hey, just try this colostrum powder because it worked for other people and it might work for you.
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That's not going to cut it at this point in 2025.
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That's a great excellent point, cyril, because you're proactive and unfortunately, we come across a lot of people who have to be proactive when it comes to their health because the answers are not out there, readily out there, the mainstream answers may not be what's going to work for them.
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So it's going to involve doing some investigation on your own and being proactive and maybe turning to non-traditional solutions such as functional medicine, such as what you're doing, how you're helping your clients.
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So thank you for bringing that point out, because that is so true.
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We have to be proactive.
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We have to be proactive when it comes to our health.
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That was part of why my investment was so big when I was trying to figure this out, because I obtained multiple certifications in functional medicine at that point, so that I wouldn't have to just rely on someone else to figure this out, when in reality, at that point, I didn't even know anyone else that had figured it out.
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No wonder I wasn't getting any results, because the dermatologist that I was going to had thinning hair themselves and they're just saying, oh yeah, you know, just just do this and do that and there's nothing else that we can do.
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And so you're going to get the result that the provider that you're working with believes in.
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They have conviction on what they believe and you're seeing them as a authority figure and someone that knows better than you, and so whoever is more confident in what they believe is going to be the person that gets that outcome in the.
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By being around people that have reversed their hair loss naturally, even when they said it's impossible, then you end up getting a different outcome for yourself as well, because you're seeing and one of the things that I like about the group coaching that I do is, you know, as we're doing that 21 days together, the other girls in the group will start showing pictures like, oh look, I have baby hairs, oh look, I have less shedding.
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And you're like, oh my gosh, maybe I'm next.
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And so you begin to expand yourself.
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And I know there's someone thinking how could it happen so quickly?
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Because there's a hair cycle and it takes months, and blah, blah, blah.
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Well, I mean, that's how you've been indoctrinated to think that it has to take a long time.
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Because whenever you go through some of these other strategies, it's not multifaceted at all.
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You're just trying to get more blood to the hair with minoxidil.
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You're just going after hormones with spironolactone or some kind of other DHT blocker.
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You're not also at the same time trying to heal the gut so that there's more nutrients and oxygen in the blood, trying to break down scar tissue so that there's thickening that you can see and feel, and trying to address hormone balance by addressing inflammation and some of these other things that are really the real root cause issues of that.
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And so when you get to be that targeted, then the process in which you bring more blood and nutrients and oxygen to the hair follicle just becomes so much faster, you know.
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So they have this thought where, well, when it scars over.
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It's dead, it's gone.
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Excuse me, nobody cut the hair follicle out of your head.
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It's still there.
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Okay, if we just get rid of the cement around it, it'll come back and work like normal.
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It's not putrid, right.
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It's like mummified in there and so to wake it up, exactly.
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So we get the beliefs of the people that we listen to.
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Yeah, they're only sharing what they know, as much as they know.
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That's what it comes down to.
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Well, cyril, thank you so much.
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What an interesting session, enlightening session.
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I've learned a lot as well when it comes to the hair scalp and follicles, so thank you so much for sharing that with us.
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And where can everyone find you?
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Oh sure.
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So my website is a good resource belcanicscom.
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That's B as in boy E-L-L-E-C-H-A-N-I-C-S.
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When you go there, you'll get a pop-up for a quiz.
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There's a blog.
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There is a whole page of all the different podcasts I've been on, so there's a wealth of information there.
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There's also a training on my website, reversinghairlossnaturallyorg.
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So if you go to reversinghairlossnaturallyorg, you'll see a training on the top three mistakes that women make when they're trying to reverse hair loss naturally and my step-by-step process to fix it.
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And then, other than that, I'm all over the socials.
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I have a Facebook group called Reversing Hair Loss Naturally.
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You could also find me by my name on Facebook, surreal Vasquez, and I'm on Instagram as reversinghairlossnaturally and Belcanics.
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I'm on LinkedIn.
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You know I'm on YouTube.
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If you YouTube me, you'll find me there.
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So if you seek, you shall find.
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All right, awesome.
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Thank you so much, surreal.
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It's been a pleasure having you today.
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A big thank you to Surreal for joining us today and for being so open about her journey with hair loss.
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It's clear from her story that tackling hair loss effectively takes more than a one-size-fits-all solution.
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It involves understanding your body's unique needs and addressing them accordingly.