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There's a relationship between oxidative stress and hydrogen, and when it goes into the body, hydrogen appears to have like a magnetic pull to the oxygen and when it goes to the oxidative stress, it like neutralizes it.
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If you want to break the mold of traditional pharmacy and healthcare, you are in the right place.
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Welcome to the Pivoting Pharmacy with Nutrigenomics podcast, part of the Pharmacy Podcast Network.
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Here's a little truth bomb.
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We're all unique, down to our DNA, so it's no wonder we react differently to the same medications, foods and environment.
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Here's a million dollar question how can you discover exactly what your body needs, which medication, what foods or supplements and which exercises are right for you?
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How can you manage chronic conditions like diabetes without more medications?
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How can you lose weight and keep it off?
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How do you tap into your genetic blueprint so you can stop surviving and start thriving in health and life?
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That is the question, and this podcast will give you the answer.
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I'm your host, Dr.
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Tamar Lawful, Doctor of Pharmacy.
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Let's pivot into genomics and bring healthcare to higher levels.
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Welcome back to Pivoting Pharmacy with Nutrigenomics.
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I'm your host, Dr .Tamar Lawful, doctor of pharmacy and nutritional genomics specialist.
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You know, in your quest for personalized health solutions, exploring every avenue is key.
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It's not just about the medications or the standard advice we're used to.
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It's about finding new, innovative ways to enhance your health that align with your individual lifestyle and genetic makeup.
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And that's exactly where our fascinating guest Greg the H-man, the hydrogen man, comes into the picture.
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You know, Greg has an incredible story to tell, one that's rooted in personal challenges but blossoms into a journey of discovery and health transformation with the help of molecular hydrogen.
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Imagine stumbling upon something so simple yet so impactful.
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It changes the course of your health.
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That's Greg's reality, and today he's here to share all about it.
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We're going to uncover the mysteries of hydrogen therapy and why it's becoming a game changer for so many.
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From fighting the silent battles against modern lifestyle threats like EMF radiation to enhancing our body's resilience.
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Greg has seen firsthand the power of this unassuming molecule and, of course, we'll keep it real and give you the lowdown on navigating the world of hydrogen products without getting lost in marketing gimmicks.
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So why does all this matter?
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Because your health is personal.
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It's about finding what works for you beyond one size fits all approaches.
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So let's get this conversation started.
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Listen in Well, greg.
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Thank you for joining us on Pivoting Pharmacy with Neutrogenomics today.
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I'm excited to get into your methods and share your expertise with the audience.
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But before we dive in, can you tell us about yourself?
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How'd you get started with molecular hydrogen?
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So it all got started because I myself got sick.
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Had I never gotten sick, I probably would have never, never learned about it, never taken a deep dive into it.
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I had zero interest in not just hydrogen, but I had zero interest in reading numerous scientific studies and papers and trying to figure out health and, quote unquote, become a health guru, because I was never anything that I was interested in and I literally wanted nothing to do with it.
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There's other things that were very, very important to me in my heart that I've been researching since I was little.
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But when I got sick and literally my life was on the line because technically I'm not even supposed to be alive right now, I'm not going to give any medical advice today.
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I'm not making any medical claims.
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I got to give my disclaimer, sorry, guys and I have to say that everything I'm going to say today are just my opinions and should not be construed as claims for or against any product or products.
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All right, sorry, I got to say that, but there's been a lot of wild stuff out there and a lot of people going after me, so I have to say these things.
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But anyway, that's ultimately what happened, and so I had to really really look for again the answers for my health.
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And, of course, I went to Western style medicine doctors, I went to naturopathic doctors, all sorts of you know, alternative medicine, all sorts of health gurus, all sorts of podcasts, and what I found out was that there was a lot of contradiction.
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So everybody's contradicting each other you literally have people saying you should eat nothing but meat, or people saying you should eat nothing but raw vegetables.
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You got people tell you drink this water no this water with this pH or no this spring water, and like everybody and their mother, it seems there was so much contradiction.
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For me, it was actually very frustrating as someone who just wanted to get my health back, and so I ended up having to take it upon myself and I'm definitely not trying to toot my own horn, but I'm really good at figuring things out.
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If they matter to me like a really great deal.
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I have to be so passionate, literally borderline obsessed.
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That's the only way that I can really find the answers to the big questions, and so this one became one of those things, because not only was my life on the line.
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I mean, I literally got to the point where I couldn't do anything, I couldn't walk, I was in so much pain, my medical conditions were so severe.
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I mean, I was point where I couldn't do anything, I couldn't walk, I was in so much pain, my medical conditions were so severe.
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I mean, I was told that I shouldn't again be alive by now.
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So it was a really painful journey, actually, and very difficult journey, and I never let it be driven by the money.
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for example, I've had a lot of companies reach out to me, offer me money wanted me to promote their products and stuff like that.
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And I vowed that I would never do that, in fact before really learning about hydrogen.
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I was at a low point in my life.
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I was literally on the couch and I couldn't walk and I remember picking up I was gonna watch tv and I remember picking up like a remote control to turn on the television and I had so much pain I couldn't even turn on the tv.
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That's how bad it was.
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And, of course, when we have really low moments in our life, what do we do?
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I prayed.
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I was like I was so broken and I used to be really quite athletic actually and so I just made a prayer and I held fast to the promises that I made.
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During that prayer.
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I asked God for guidance to help me see things that others can't see and just know the answers in regards to health and just guide me.
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Can't see and just know the answers in regards to health and just guide me.
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And I said I promise that if you help me, I will use that knowledge to help others.
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And that's what I've done and I've never let money get in the way, because, again, that's really been a big thing.
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That's come up a lot and that's also why a lot of companies hate me.
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You know a lot of companies have been very upset about things that I've said because I'm exposing the truth about a lot of things.
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Upset about things that I've said because I'm exposing the truth about a lot of things, especially hydrogen and also water, and so it's been a really long and tough journey, well, and indeed an incredibly inspiring one.
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Greg, you have definitely piqued my curiosity and, I'm sure, the curiosity of the audience, so tell us, let's get into it what is molecular hydrogen?
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What do we need to know about it?
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So hydrogen, to keep it really simple, is literally we are talking about molecular hydrogen, because there are different types of hydrogen is literally just a gas.
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So, like oxygen is also a gas.
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Molecular hydrogen is a gas, and different types of gases affect the body in different ways, and so that's ultimately just what it is.
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To keep it as simple as possible, it's a gas, but it's a very special gas.
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Yeah, indeed, because it's definitely one that helped you with your recovery on your journey.
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Can you talk a little bit more about that?
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How exactly did you use molecular hydrogen?
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How do you use it now to help others?
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The first way that I used it.
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I totally did it wrong because I didn't understand.
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So I was reading all the scientific evidence about hydrogen, which was really impressive, but once I actually wanted to use it, it got really frustrating because I bought things like, for example, like have you ever seen these little hydrogen bottles that they?
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sell out there.
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Yes, yes, yeah.
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In my opinion, these are just absolutely trash.
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In fact, they might be worse than trash.
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They might even potentially cause harm.
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And I'm not going to.
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I'm not making claims or anything.
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I'm just saying that I would never use it for many reasons.
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Plated metals from China People need to understand, when electricity runs through metal and water, how that affects things.
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It's not.
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I would never use plated metal or coated metal.
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And also the membranes.
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I've seen lab reports of what's in these membranes that they use.
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A lot of these companies actually are trying to hide the fact of what kind of membranes they use now.
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So just those things were mistakes that I was making at first, and then I would use machines that were just way too expensive.
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That literally did not help me at all which were like the kangen machines, or even some called brown's gas, which use stainless steel and if you can believe they believe it.
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They use sodium hydroxide, otherwise known as lye, which is like the main ingredient in Drano.
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They literally use it now to dissolve human bodies.
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It's horrible stuff and people use that kind of stuff because people don't understand that there are multiple ways to make hydrogen and there's some that are better than others and, of course, more difficult than others, even like hydrogen tablets.
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I'm not a fan of those at all either because of things I've seen in lab reports.
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So there was so much to learn.
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I actually had to learn a lot about engineering so not just the science.
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That was already really a lot of work.
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But then I had to learn about the engineering and again, the different types of metals and components and ways of making hydrogen.
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So it was very, very difficult, very frustrating and very time-consuming to ultimately figure it out.
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And that did lead me to Japan.
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I mean, all these studies were coming out of Japan.
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For people who don't understand Japanese culture, the Japanese, they're unbelievable.
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I mean, they're unbelievable.
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Some of the best science I ever found was coming out of Japan.
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They're the ones who discovered hydrogen.
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They're the ones who make the best hydrogen machine in the world.
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I followed the data and it led me to the number one hydrogen company in all of Japan and the world and I didn't know that it was going to lead me there, and it was their machine, ultimately, that resolved not only my problems but things with my father, you know high blood pressure issues, cholesterol issues, diabetes, arthritis, glaucoma, my heart conditions, people with kidney conditions, a lot of eye and brain conditions, Alzheimer's, dementia, macular degeneration, cataracts, even torn retinas.
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I mean just unbelievable stuff.
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I just released, literally a few days ago, a video of a woman who is 93 years old and her doctor.
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She had so many heart problems and he was just like you're done.
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Like, you ain't going to make a girl, you girl, you know she's, she's obviously nudging a hundred and um and he just said there was no chance for her and she had diabetes and she had high blood pressure and I literally had her daughter.
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I didn't even ask for it.
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I get these emails all the time.
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They send me a testimonial and they send me her medical records and her latest medical records with an email from her doctor, all those conditions are gone and they just literally unbelievable.
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Because imagine that same thing happened with me.
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I was told I needed open heart surgery for one of my many issues and that just went away by using that japanese equipment with the proper protocol.
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I guess if people want to see the equipment their.
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The official site is called holyhydrogencom.
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A lot of people are always curious just to take a look at it.
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Unbelievable technology.
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I've never seen anything like it and I've tried everything and anything under the sun.
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I literally spent my life savings trying supplements, machines, different doctors and whatnot, and so it's truly, truly unbelievable.
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And then when I found out the story of the guy who created that machine oh my goodness, this poor guy he had a daughter.
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When his daughter was born, she was born with ALS, otherwise known as Lou Gehrig's disease.
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Right, right, he knew about the science of hydrogen and the potential of it, but he knew that there was no machine out there for home use that could really give you the real results you'd want, and he set out to make the best machine.
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That's how he did it.
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He got help In Japan.
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It's very different culturally.
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I don't think this could have happened in any other country.
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In Japan, they're willing to help each other, even if there's no money involved, and so ultimately, what ended up happening was he got help from huge industries and huge tech, very intelligent engineers from Toyota I mean, think about that.
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Toyota is like huge.
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He shot that watch company, yamaha.
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Yamaha is huge too, and they helped him and some very prestigious metal company that happens to be Japanese and they are literally the number one in the world to work with specific types of metal.
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It's a beautiful story.
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He never wanted anything to be made in China because he said he knew they would cut corners, use inferior technology, potentially make the hydrogen dangerous and not as effective, and so he ended up doing all of it in Japan.
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It basically ended up being very expensive, from what I learned, and didn't really leave much room for profit or whatnot, but he did it from his heart, and those are the things that I love when people do it from the heart and it's real and they put everything into it, and I've seen that a lot with the Japanese.
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You end up creating something that is not just priceless and transgresses time a lot like samurai swords.
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I mean, samurai swords are just a thing of beauty and they transgress time and they were made so long ago and yet they're just beautiful and I love stuff like that, and so I was very grateful for that, and that's why I'm so grateful for for that machine.
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It saved my life and has transformed a lot of other people's lives, so I'm grateful.
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Thank you for sharing that.
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Now, Greg, you mentioned a variety of conditions that hydrogen, molecular hydrogen, can support.
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How exactly does do that?
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Why is it so beneficial?
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So the only tricky thing about that is I mean, we know, if we look at the science, I mean we know that hydrogen appears to function as you know, an anti-inflammatory, a selective antioxidant which is really unique, because other antioxidants are not typically selective in nature.
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Like if you take a lot of vitamin C, it's antioxidative activity, but very indiscriminately, and hydrogen seems to select what it wants to do.
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It's almost like it's got a mind of its own.
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It's really pretty amazing.
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And not to mention the fact that antioxidants a lot of people don't realize.
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I'm not even sure if you realize are you aware that antioxidants actually come in different sizes?
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So a a lot of people just think oh, it's an antioxidant.
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They don't understand that if it's not the right size, it's not going to make it to the core of your mitochondria, it's not necessarily everywhere you want it to get to, and hydrogen is so tiny I mean it's so beautiful, it's so special and it can make it literally to the core of your mitochondria and there's so much mitochondrial dysfunction, in my opinion, which leads to a lot of different diseases.
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But there's so much that hydrogen can do.
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I mean I've seen studies where it literally lowers the amount of parasites in the body, which is another really big one.
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I've seen it where it does so many amazing things for the gut.
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It's actually unbelievable.
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Um, I've seen people with, like, uh, crohn's disease, celiac disease, ibs, all sorts of gut issues, and I've worked with many people who've had these issues and literally I've seen those issues go away, which is unreal.
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Like a lot of these people had spent literally hundreds of thousands of dollars for decades going to doctors and trying to find the answer to these gut issues, and they just couldn't.
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And basically, research shown that it appears to be really, really good for the gut bacteria cell signaling.
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There's so many things, but the truth is nobody actually knows, not even the Japanese.
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Nobody on planet earth actually knows the full mechanism of what exactly hydrogen is doing.
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They're getting some ideas, they're finding some things.
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They can clearly see that it doesn't, though.
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So, for example, I wish I had this footage there was like mice that they had in Japan.
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This is when the research first started with and without hydrogen, and they would expose them to example things like radiation or even chemotherapy is how protective it is.
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So hydrogen is like, extremely protective, and that's so important because we don't realize how much our bodies are being bombarded literally every single day, and so, whether it's chemicals like in the paint in your house right, or in the food that you eat, or the water that you drink or the air that you breathe.
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It's always something, and all these things are chipping away at us, so something that can protect you.
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It's unreal, like I could give you numerous examples.
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I mean, I could give you one because I think it's so powerful have you ever heard of the drug cisplatin?
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yes, and cisplatin is so damaging to the body that literally will destroy your kidneys.
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This is why doctors tend not to use this drug very much.
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It's for cancer or anti-tumor drug, and I saw a research study where they actually used hydrogen with cisplatin, so with or without it, and the results were just night and day like, literally, the kidneys were still functioning at almost 80% still after the cisplatin with hydrogen.
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So so hydrogen was protecting the kidneys so much, whereas without it you just destroyed the kidneys, like you know, they wouldn't function anymore.
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So if it's doing that with something that toxic and powerful of a substance, imagine what it does with our everyday lives.
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So there's so much that it does for us.
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I truly think it's actually beyond what we actually understand, beyond what any medical professional even understands.
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I think it's actually a very spiritual molecule.
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And one of the things I did on my journey is I would also observe nature for answers.
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We're heard of a place called lords, france.
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Yes, yes, lords, so I'm not sure if you're aware.
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First of all, it's like the healing waters of lords, and all these people are healing from this water.
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Nobody knows why.
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They did send numerous scientists to study the water and they basically just said this is just h2o until the japanese because again super detail oriented.
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Detecting hydrogen is actually very difficult and if you take a water sample and ship it somewhere, the hydrogen's gone by the time it gets to wherever it's getting to.
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So basically they did discover that that water has high levels of molecular hydrogen in it, and so that's how a lot of the research got started.
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And so nature even does this and that, and that's a big thing.
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Even even the way that I clean my water I'm mimicking nature.
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I'm not doing just your average filter or whatever.
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So most of the stuff that I do follows a lot of nature, of course scientific you know articles and believe it or not, and studies and even ancient scriptures that have ancient knowledge.
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I read a lot of those too, so I put all of it together and I would weigh out again the science versus other things that I would read, and that's really an observing nature and that's how I created a lot of my protocols.
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Now it's interesting that it seems to have so many benefits, but we're still not able to pinpoint exactly how it's working, how it's doing that.
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It's like this wonder gas, this magic gas.
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Well, I mean, I do think personally that I actually know how how it works, but there's a reason that I'm not saying it publicly at this time, because a lot of the stuff that I've said publicly literally has been stolen, Like the information has been taken and other people have been taking credit for my work.
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I see.
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So I actually think I know how it works and nobody, literally nobody in the world does, and I actually think it's.
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The way it works is beautiful, but I should say that it also appears to work clearly on free radicals, on oxidative stress, like ROS reactive oxygen species because there's a relationship between oxygen, so like oxidation, and again, again this oxidative stress, and hydrogen, because literally water, which is the most, one of the most magical things, obviously, that we have on planet earth, and water is h2o, meaning hydrogen and oxygen.
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So it's got this beautiful affinity and when it goes into the body, you know, hydrogen appears to have like a magnetic pull to the oxygen and when it goes to the oxidative stress, it like neutralizes it.
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Right, and japanese did discover that 97 to 98 percent of all disease, all of it appears to come down to one thing and that's oxidative stress or free radicals.
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So if you have too much of that in the liver, it's going to turn out to be liver issues or too much in the brain or wherever it's at, and so that also seems to be a very big part.
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not to mention that hydrogen is the great balancer.
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It really appears to bring great balance and homeostasis in the body, because we do need some oxidative stress or free radicals, but it's all about balance on those two fronts, just like water is a balance of hydrogen and oxygen.
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I think that's a great point that you brought out about the oxidative stress and how so many people are affected by it.
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In my practice I do genetic testing through nutrigenomics, so nutritional genomics.
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It identifies, like methylation, oxidative stress, inflammation as underlying issues that need to be worked on from a genetic level.
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Oxidative stress, inflammation as underlying issues that need to be worked on from a genetic level.
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Oxidative stress comes up so frequently as something that needs to be addressed, so it's interesting that this is a finding when it comes to molecular hydrogen, that oxidative stress is a very common occurrence in people, in the population in general.
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Now I'm thinking from a pharmacist's mind where when we take, ingest certain things, whether it's by pill form or inhalation, we want to know how much, how often and what route.
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So can you tell us as far as that's concerned with molecular hydrogen, how much, how often should it be used and how is it taken in?
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How often should it be used?
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And how is it taken in?
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You know, as a person who's looking into the quote unquote, the pharmaceutical field and I've actually some of my really good friends are not only pharmacists, doctors, even nuclear pharmacists I have a friend that does that and something that's even more important than what you just stated which, by the way, what you said is very important is actually how you make the medicine.
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So this is one thing that literally almost nobody's talking about I definitely brought it to the forefront and that's how you make the hydrogen.
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So how you make it really matters, in my personal opinion, and there are different ways to make it, so that's going to be actually one of the more important things.
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At first, I remember seeing a list of all these medical issues.
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This was a from a scientific study in japan.
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Tons of medical issues I think it was almost 200, it was like 100 and something and next to every medical issue they had the pharmaceutical drug that they were supposed to take for each specific issue, or pharmaceutical drugs that you would take, and then next to those, they had more pharmaceutical drugs for, like, whether it's side effects or whatever, and by the time you were done, the list was so massive for all these diseases.
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The disease list was like this and then the medicine one was like literally, you couldn't even see it right it was of course was then, right next to that, they put hydrogen, and what the Japanese had stated was this one thing we have shown to be effective for all those medical conditions.
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And even the scientists stated this doesn't seem possible.
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We've seen it, we know that it's true, but we don't understand how can one thing do what all these drugs are doing.
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I mean, how is that possible?
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Ultimately, that's when they came out with their kind of theory of oxidative stress.
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That's how the whole thing came to be, but ultimately, as far as the way you make it or take it, so, you want to know about how you take it, and I will say before I say this the protocols as far as how you take hydrogen are completely dependent on the equipment or the way that you're making it.
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So you can't.
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You might have a five milligram pill of something or a 20 milligram pill.
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Well, that's going to be different as far as how many pills you should take, right?
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So it really matters.
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I can't emphasize that's enough because, again, if done incorrectly, I have personally seen it.
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So this is my opinion, but I've seen it.
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I've seen it cause way more harm than good or just literally give you no results.
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And I've seen a lot of lab tests now that are now backing up what I've been saying all along.