How To Find Your Unique Voice In Pharmacy

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We are helping people get off medications by focusing on implementing lifestyle changes and nutrition.

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Ideally, I would love it to be pharmacist-led, because my vision is to make it something larger.

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If you want to break the mold of traditional pharmacy and healthcare, you are in the right place.

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Welcome to the Pivoting Pharmacy with Neutrogenomics podcast, part of the Pharmacy Podcast Network.

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Here's a little truth bomb.

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We're all unique, down to our DNA, so it's no wonder we react differently to the same medications, foods and environment.

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Here's a million dollar question how can you discover exactly what your body needs, which medication, what foods or supplements and which exercises are right for you?

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How can you manage chronic conditions like diabetes without more medications?

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How can you lose weight and keep it off?

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How do you tap into your genetic blueprint so you can stop surviving and start thriving in health and life?

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That is the question, and this podcast will give you the answer.

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I'm your host, dr Tamar, lawful doctor of pharmacy.

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Let's pivot into genomics and bring healthcare to higher levels.

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Hi friends, I'm your host, dr Tamar, lawful doctor of pharmacy and nutritional genomics specialist.

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Today I'm talking to Dr Tamar, lawful Dr of Pharmacy and Nutritional Genomics Specialist.

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Today, I'm talking to the pharmacist, and if you're not a pharmacist, I'm sure you will benefit from what I'm about to share as well.

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So don't go anywhere, because we're taking a listen in on a conversation that could transform the way you view your own career.

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All right, so my pharmacist friends, hello, listen and picture this.

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You're standing at the crossroads of traditional pharmacy and the path less traveled.

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What would you do If you chose to take the path less traveled?

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How would you go about doing it and what can you expect?

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I once asked myself these questions and I found my unique voice among the global shift brought on by trends like personalized medicine and the wellness movement.

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Think about the global pivot we witnessed in recent history, much like when the world turned to pharmacists like never before, during the COVID-19 pandemic.

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To pharmacists, like never before.

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During the COVID-19 pandemic, we saw our profession stepping into the light, showcasing our ability to adapt, innovate and lead in ways beyond the pharmacy counter.

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It became an unexpected movement for re-evaluation, a push for many to seek out their authentic contributions to healthcare and patient wellness.

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This episode taps into that same energy.

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It's not just about standing out.

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It's finding where your passion for patient-centered care can intersect with a new healthcare model.

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How can your voice resonate in a system craving transformation.

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I shared a platform with Todd Urie, ceo of the Pharmacy Podcast Network, the podfather, discussing the secrets to uncovering your passion, utilizing your knowledge to its fullest potential and bridging the gap between traditional pharmacy roles and entrepreneurial innovation.

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It's about nurturing your career to become a beacon for change and a testament to the value a pharmacist can add in the age of personalized healthcare.

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So pull up a chair, plug in your headphones and get ready to be inspired.

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Whether you're contemplating a bold career move or you're seeking to rekindle your love for pharmacy, this episode speaks volumes.

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Friend, let's find out how you can amplify your unique voice in our ever-evolving professional landscape.

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Listen in.

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All right, without further ado, I want to get into our really amazing guest today, dr Tamar Lawful, who is deeply into nutrigenomics and pharmacogenomics and she shares some updates with us, and that's this Week in Pharmacy, one of the Pharmacy 50, I wanted to just say welcome, dr Lawful, it's so good to have you here on this Week in Pharmacy.

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Thank you for having me, Todd.

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It's a pleasure to be here with you.

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What year was it Was it 2022 that you were voted as Pharmacy 50?

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2023.

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2023.

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That's right Just recently, congratulations.

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Thank you, thank you for that.

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What are you doing in the profession that you're standing out?

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Because not only do I see you everywhere and I love your social media, but you are professional, you are poised.

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I like using you as an example for pharmacy students, where I'm saying listen, you may want to go into long-term care, you may want to go into retail, you may want to go into becoming a medical science liaison, but I want our pharmacy students to realize they have to become a brand, they have to become a voice to attract opportunities to themselves, to assure that they are commanding their own careers based on the popularity of what they're driving in blogging, in podcasting, in speaking events.

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And there's never a time not to start.

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If I could go back in time, I started in 2009.

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But if I could go back in time and realize, boy, if I would have done some more writing and more blogging to document my journey, I would have been more prevalent to the markets that I was trying to be a part of.

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Can you talk to our listeners about kind of standing out and being professional and being a content developer?

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Definitely, todd.

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I mean, when it comes to pharmacy, there is so much we can do.

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You listed quite a bit there.

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I think what's important is first we find what our passion is, identifying it and through blogging and writing and even at home, personally journaling can help us do that and then, when you identify what really drives you, it becomes easier to find your voice.

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And then, behind that voice, it becomes easy to brand yourself because your voice becomes your brand and you can authentically be yourself and talk about whatever topic it is because it's driving you.

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So for new pharmacists out there it can be difficult.

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You may not know what your passion is at first.

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So I encourage you to try different things.

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Definitely.

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There's nothing wrong with trying different things or just talking to people, reaching out to pharmacists that are doing something different or that's something that interests you, and ask them about it and maybe you can work with them a little bit.

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Maybe they can just give you some insight, maybe they can direct you to certain resources.

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But definitely explore and get your hands in it so that you can first identify that passion, find your drive.

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Yep.

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And then I think of the pharmacist who's been in retail for five, six, seven years who says, all right, I've done this.

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I've learned the world of customer service.

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I've learned the world of in the trenches pharmacy practice.

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I want to move to fill in the blank specialty long-term care.

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I want to get into clinical trials something.

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What have you done in taking kind of the steps to prepare to be the master of your own career and moving forward as an entrepreneur per se to make that transition?

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How long do you think it takes?

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I mean, it's different for everyone, but talk to about the process of blending the difference between like me, from 2009, when I launched the podcast, to 2019, I was working a full time, 50 hour a week job, take care of my family and do what I'm doing.

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It was all it's a combination of pharmacy software.

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It was an addiction therapy, it was helping pharmacists in technology and then I made the jump to entrepreneurship 100% of the time running this publication.

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Talk to us about your journey.

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Yeah, you're right, the journey for everyone is absolutely different, making the decision to pursue entrepreneurship and for me, I started it and I still am.

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I still have a full time job in a hospital setting a trauma one medical center, very busy hospital setting.

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You know, this steady income that I'm going to get is not something I want to do anymore.

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Not that I don't want steady income, but my passion was driving me somewhere else, and which was entrepreneurship.

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So the transition can be difficult and for each person, yes, it's different.

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So you find what works for you.

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For me, what worked was doing my business part-time, but also having a work schedule with the hospital that allowed me to work on my business as much as I could.

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So I only work every other week at my hospital.

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So I have a week on, a week off, and that off week I am all in for life balance all in with podcasting, all in with health coaching my clients and all in with business consulting for pharmacists.

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And a lot of work is necessary for me to be all in on that week that I'm not working at my full-time job.

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What I'm saying is that I had to do a lot of work before I could start.

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I had to set a lot of things up in the background so that things are automated now.

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So because I have these automations in place for the services that I offer to those who want health coaching or those who want business consulting, it makes it so much easier.

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I don't need to have a whole team of 20 people doing these things because I have these automations in place.

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But it was a lot of hours, a lot of work.

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I took months off work a few years ago to build all this for my business.

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So it's entrepreneurship.

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There are some people that just dive right into it because they have the means to.

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They can stop working their full-time job and just dive right into it.

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For me, it's the slow transition and on top of that, I love being a pharmacist.

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That's why my podcast is called Pivoting Pharmacy, not Leaving Pharmacy.

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So we're just pivoting to use the pharmacy skills a little bit differently, but in a hospital setting.

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You know people are coming with acute problems, medical problems that require the use of medications.

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So I enjoy being part of that, being part of the solution for those patients in those dire moments.

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But, on the other hand, seeing that is what pushed me towards what I do now with health coaching because I have people coming with heart failure, exacerbation.

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They're coming in with obesity, diabetes, these hypertension.

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These are all chronic illnesses that are preventable.

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So I had to start thinking what can I do to help prevent people from coming to the hospitals with these conditions, to the hospitals with these conditions?

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And that's where I am now with using nutrigenomics as that tool to guide patients to better health and incorporating healthier lifestyle habits and nutrition habits.

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So for you personally, tamara, talk to us about what you're creating.

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So and this is my imagination, so you'll take time to correct this so I'm thinking of you out there doing the social media doing.

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You know you're really good on Instagram.

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Your graphics are professional, your whole, you know.

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Look.

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So I think it's definitely sellable.

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And you're out in Clovis California, right?

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Yes.

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I'm thinking of the community that you're in.

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So it's my imagination that you would create the stickiness to people in your community that would be like hey, you're on 16 meds, you're a diabetic, you're going through this.

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We want to sit down, we want to do a medication management review.

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We kind of want to get you back on a better track.

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We might want to do some deprescribing, we might want to do some pharmacogenomics testing or nutrigenomics testing to really dial in into this precision medicine.

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But when you get to that point, what are you doing?

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An incident to billing environment with a physician to take the baton and really run with the treatment that you're corresponding, or you're kind of consulting with a physician how do you get started with like an NPI number to be able to bill or to be able to do something?

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Talk to me about how to build that.

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And is that the future for Dr Tamara Lawful?

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That is a great question, todd.

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So I'm going to start with the keyword autonomy.

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When I decided to become an entrepreneur, I wanted full autonomy.

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I wanted full control.

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I wanted to be the decision maker, and the only decision maker when it came to how I ran my business.

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As a result of that, I decided to go cash pay.

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I did not want to involve insurance companies when it comes to physician involvement.

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They are my referral system, so I've developed relationships with physicians in my community so that they know about my business, life Balance and my Interglow health coaching program and how I can help patients with diabetes, obesity, hypertension all those chronic illnesses get their health back in order.

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So they will refer their patients to me.

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I communicate with them if there's anything that I notice with the patients that enroll in my program.

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So, those who are on medications, yes, I am reviewing their medication profile.

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I'm educating them, looking for drug interactions, drug-drug interactions and then focusing a lot on those lifestyle and nutrition changes and habits.

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I've worked with some pharmacists who do want to do the billing side of things, incorporate that with insurance companies.

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So it gets a little bit trickier because and it depends on the state as well the nature of what we're doing as pharmacists in this type of setting is not traditional.

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A lot of insurance companies they're not really sure how to bill that, so the billing portion really comes into working.

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It's easier if you do work with a physician, collaborative agreement with them, them or they hire you on as part of their team, whether it's a consultant or a W-2, like an actual employee.

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It becomes easier because then the billing can be done through the doctor's office and coding.

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Is that considered the terminology incident to billing?

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Yes, okay.

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That's correct, excellent.

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So if you're driving, if you're walking, if you're listening to this podcast and it's audio, only then you don't see the website, which is the life balance and life L?

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So the L?

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I love the logo in her glow and I like the fact that you have a 90-day roadmap, as well as a practitioners for physician referrals and pharmacists, your blog, obviously, the podcast.

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Talk to the listeners about when you see this going.

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Is this something that you hope to grow enough of a patient base that this becomes a full-time work?

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Absolutely, todd.

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This is what my full-time work will be very soon.

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When I created my business, I did not name it Tomorrow Lawful Consultants, because I envisioned it to be a large organization at the time called Life Balance.

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I'm actually working on changing the business name to Interglow, as you see on the website.

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So that's why we have right now it's trademarked and it's about to be approved as a registered trademark Interglow.

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So I want it to be a huge organization where we are helping people get off medications by focusing on implementing lifestyle changes and nutrition.

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Ideally, I would love it to be pharmacist-led.

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I want all pharmacists to be the health coaches that are guiding them, and I have a signature protocol that I use with my patients or my clients in the business, consulting part of it, depending what level of the consulting they choose and coaching they choose.

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They actually get access to my protocol as well as my program to use with their own clients and patients, so it's already made as turnkey.

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I train them on how to use it, I help them build up their marketing, their branding, all of it all the fun stuff.

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So, because my vision is to make it something larger, but for now, any pharmacist that's interested, I am offering services to help them start their own nutrigenomic based practices and programs.

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That's incredible, excellent, all right.

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So what's next?

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You have a webinar that I think that you're going to be doing.

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You probably do these on some kind of cyclical basis, but talk to us about how you're getting the word out there.

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Yeah, so I have.

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The latest webinar I have is how to use weight loss medications and maintain the results, because they're all the craze right now the new injectable weight loss medications like Zetbound, or people still referring them to Ozempic and Menjaro, which are indicated for diabetes and weight loss associated obesity for patients who have diabetes.

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Because a lot of the phone calls I get for people who are interested the women that are calling me is this safe?

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Even friends that I have, you know what do you think about Ozempic?

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So I said you know what.

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I'm just going to do a webinar.

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I'm going to break down all the weight loss medications, even older ones.

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I go way back, todd and compare all of them and just inform, because, as a pharmacist, I want people to avoid medications if needed.

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But the fact is people are going to use medications.

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Doctors are going to prescribe them.

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I'm little old me.

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I can only.

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What am I going to do right Against big pharma?

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So I want to educate people out there about the safety of the medications, how to actually use them, what to expect from them, the side effects and what happens when you stop using it and how I can help them if they decide to stop using that medication still continue to have safe weight loss, even if they're on the medication.

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I can still help them develop healthy habits, because we know that's what's necessary right their healthy eating habits and to help you with the weight loss and have an active lifestyle as well.

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So that's what a webinar is about.

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I saw a need because people were so inquisitive about these medications, so I just want to let them know the truth about it.

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And no judgment it's a judgment-free zone in the webinar.

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It's all there to educate you, to make them well-informed decision makers so they can take control of their own health.

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Well, we're proud of you.

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I'm so thankful that you're part of the Pharmacy Podcast Network.

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It's been wonderful watching you grow.

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You're not even until your first year anniversary yet and already you're setting podcast world on fire through us and with us, and I just love it.

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So I want to share with the listeners just understanding kind of the significance Tamar's podcast is doing extremely well and, once again, if you're watching on YouTube or if you're watching on our or if you're watching on our Twerks video feed, you can see on your screen that her latest episode that was released on March 1st and it was about if you want healthier kids, this is a great show.

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I actually sent this to several of my own family members, including my sisters, who lean much more holistic and natural.

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My sister's actually in nutrition down in Melbourne's medical center and she made comments about loving this podcast.

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But 619 listeners downloads and I was just talking to Tamar the average podcast gets 141 downloads in a month and we are a podcast network that wants the attention of our pharmacy care professionals and we're not out there just necessarily just for the public.

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So that is significant and I just wanted to congratulate you.

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Thank you, todd, and thank you for having me on the network and providing that platform for me to get the word and the message out there.

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I appreciate it.

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Absolutely All right.

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Well, we're going to have you back.

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We have lots to talk about, maybe a contributor in the future with some of the investigative reporting that you do on things.

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But you have a home here you always have a home here One of the most innovative pharmacists in my own network, which I'm, like I said, I'm proud of what you're doing.

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But thanks for being on this Week in Pharmacy.

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You're welcome.

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Thank you so much, todd.

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That's all I have for you.

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Friends, thank you for tuning into this insightful exploration of the paths that lie beyond the conventional realms of pharmacy.

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We've shared an invigorating dialogue shedding light on the ways pharmacists can tap into their passions, transition towards entrepreneurship and harness their expertise to foster a more proactive approach to preventing chronic disease through health coaching, or some might say health consulting or health advising, whatever you want to call it.

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It's clear that the landscape of pharmacy is ripe with opportunities for those daring enough to redefine their roles.

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It's about more than standing apart.

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It's about paving new paths for healthcare and wellness.

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I hope today's conversation ignited a spark within you.

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If you're feeling inspired to pivot your career, explore entrepreneurial avenues, or simply want to integrate more patient-centered care into your practice, don't let this momentum wane.

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Here are your next steps.

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One, reflect on what aspects of today's conversation resonated most with you.

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What's your passion?

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How can you align it with a career pivot or enhancement?

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Second, research and educate yourself further on opportunities in personalized medicine, nutrigenomics and health coaching, health consulting, health advising.

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Knowledge is power friends, and the more you know, the better equipped you'll be to make impactful changes.

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Third, I want you to connect with a community of like-minded professionals, join forums, attend workshops and participate in discussions to share your experiences and learn from others on similar journeys.

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And last, visit me at wwwraise the scriptcom to discover a solution for easily broadening your scope and impact.

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That's wwwraisethescriptcom.

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Whether you're looking to deepen your understanding of nutrigenomics or eager to learn how to seamlessly incorporate nutrigenomics into your practice, raise the Script offers a solution you need to transform your ambitions into reality.

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So schedule a demo, get a quote and see for yourself how Neutrogenomics can revolutionize your approach to patient care and expand your professional horizons.

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Your unique voice and expertise are invaluable to the evolving landscape of healthcare.

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Friends, by embracing the intersection of traditional pharmacy and innovative patient-centered care, you can become a catalyst for change and a beacon of hope for patients navigating their wellness journeys.

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That's all I have for you today.

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Thank you for joining me Coming up next week on the show.

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We're unraveling the real deal behind self-limiting beliefs so you can kickstart your health progress without being held back by your own mindset.

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And if you are a healthcare practitioner, this episode would be helpful for you as well, so you can get some tips on how to coach your patients who might be struggling with their own self-limiting beliefs.

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Talk to you next Friday.

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Until next time, remember to raise the scripts on health, because together we can bring healthcare to higher levels.

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